Comments on: Where will we go when SA is destroyed? http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/ Things you didn't know you wanted to know... Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:19:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: BROWN http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/#comment-25 BROWN Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:52:32 +0000 http://www.subtafuge.com/?p=106#comment-25 :) :)

]]> By: Andries http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/#comment-22 Andries Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:37:51 +0000 http://www.subtafuge.com/?p=106#comment-22 Good arguments Martin..... I would n`t have said it better....... Good arguments Martin….. I would n`t have said it better…….

]]> By: Senzo Mkhize http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/#comment-20 Senzo Mkhize Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:22:25 +0000 http://www.subtafuge.com/?p=106#comment-20 I think martin has a point , Brown seems to suffer from self-hate more than anything . We do not need Xenophobia in this country , but also our thinking that people from other african countries have better work ethics is wrong....give up Brown.. I think martin has a point , Brown seems to suffer from self-hate more than anything . We do not need Xenophobia in this country , but also our thinking that people from other african countries have better work ethics is wrong….give up Brown..

]]> By: BROWN http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/#comment-19 BROWN Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:29:46 +0000 http://www.subtafuge.com/?p=106#comment-19 that's what happens when one is in denial and they do not have the potential to look at the symbolism and bigger picture dear Mr Mthembu ... And your name is Martin? real name or just easier to pronounce? get a grip baba ... that’s what happens when one is in denial and they do not have the potential to look at the symbolism and bigger picture dear Mr Mthembu … And your name is Martin? real name or just easier to pronounce? get a grip baba …

]]> By: Martin Mthembu http://www.subtafuge.com/2008/06/where-will-we-go-when-sa-is-destroyed/#comment-18 Martin Mthembu Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:29:47 +0000 http://www.subtafuge.com/?p=106#comment-18 (Please publish) While I am supportive of your argument about the incidences of Xenophobia in South Africa, I think it is a product of abnormal mind to label South Africa as a " barbaric nation ". The ' isolated incident " of the South African lady who did not pitch up for the interview ( as you mentioned) does not mean South Africans have a general attitude of entitlement. What if that lady had tried even to borrow money so she can come for the interview but she did not get it ?. The fact of the matter is that she communicated her problem with you ... so please give her a break. and stop generalising around this issue...... Why did you not meet her half way by driving down to the township where she resides or was it " too unsecure " for you!!!.. your argument about the people who should empower themselves with education is nothing but lame. Nomfundo , you appear to be suffering from nothing other than selective amnesia. These are the indivuduals who can not go back to school as they can not be accepted. They are the product of the apartheid regime and old Bantu Education that you should know better as a "Black " lady.That you studied in better school that them does not mean you should be ignorant about the issues facing the country. I have seen these people selling stuff at the corners and at the robbots while driving to and from work. They try to empower themselves but they need more support platform from people like you. do you bother to buy from them or even look at them while seating comfortable in your luxury car??. What changes can you expect from these people in just 14 years!!. Their education, life-style , self-image was destroyed for years and years . Are you expecting the situation to be normal like nothing happened in just a split of a second ???. You talk about empowerment , who have you empowered in your life time??? , what are you doing for this coutry other than being negative and labelling every one as a bad guy ??. It is people like you who are busy employing ONLY people from outside the country because of their "stereotypes " and ungrounded beliefs that they have better work ethics than South Africans. You are the cause of these xenophobic violences and ONLY you can not see it !!!. Your arguments are not good enough , so please make sure you put a lot of thought into these things before you publish them... I lost interest after reading this article : Martin Mthembu Electrical Engineer E-mail : mvela.musi@telkomsa.net Cell : 0828502245 Phone :0113124097 (Please publish)
While I am supportive of your argument about the incidences of Xenophobia in South Africa, I think it is a product of abnormal mind to label South Africa as a ” barbaric nation “.

The ‘ isolated incident ” of the South African lady who did not pitch up for the interview ( as you mentioned) does not mean South Africans have a general attitude of entitlement. What if that lady had tried even to borrow money so she can come for the interview but she did not get it ?. The fact of the matter is that she communicated her problem with you … so please give her a break. and stop generalising around this issue…… Why did you not meet her half way by driving down to the township where she resides or was it ” too unsecure ” for you!!!..

your argument about the people who should empower themselves with education is nothing but lame. Nomfundo , you appear to be suffering from nothing other than selective amnesia. These are the indivuduals who can not go back to school as they can not be accepted. They are the product of the apartheid regime and old Bantu Education that you should know better as a “Black ” lady.That you studied in better school that them does not mean you should be ignorant about the issues facing the country. I have seen these people selling stuff at the corners and at the robbots while driving to and from work. They try to empower themselves but they need more support platform from people like you. do you bother to buy from them or even look at them while seating comfortable in your luxury car??.

What changes can you expect from these people in just 14 years!!. Their education, life-style , self-image was destroyed for years and years . Are you expecting the situation to be normal like nothing happened in just a split of a second ???.

You talk about empowerment , who have you empowered in your life time??? , what are you doing for this coutry other than being negative and labelling every one as a bad guy ??.

It is people like you who are busy employing ONLY people from outside the country because of their “stereotypes ” and ungrounded beliefs that they have better work ethics than South Africans. You are the cause of these xenophobic violences and ONLY you can not see it !!!.

Your arguments are not good enough , so please make sure you put a lot of thought into these things before you publish them…

I lost interest after reading this article :

Martin Mthembu
Electrical Engineer
E-mail : mvela.musi@telkomsa.net
Cell : 0828502245
Phone :0113124097

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